Not too long ago, I wrote a post about Wells Fargo auto finance. I noticed a few complaints about their practices and decided to find out more about them. I concluded that they had some pretty significant shortfalls and certainly were far from perfect, but that they were probably miscast as 100% unadulterated evil devil spawn. Many of the complaints were of the “I don’t like the fact I borrowed too much money and they’re not nice about my inability to pay” variety.
So, I asssumed the same thing would probably be true of Chase Auto Finance. “CAF” is a division of the big ol’ JP Morgan Chase Bank conglomerate and they’re in the business of loaning folks money when it’s time to pick out a new set of wheels. After looking at the situation with Chase, my initial suspicions were basically confirmed. They certainly aren’t perfect, but they don’t appear to be sadistic evildoers hellbent on crushing the spirits of borrowers.
If you look through the list of complaints about Chase at sites like ConsumerAffairs.com, you’ll find that most of them fall into one of two categories.
There are entirely legitimate gripes about things Chase has screwed up. Clerical errors, annoying miscalculations and other problems litter the list. These are black marks against a lender and those “little” mistakes can produce monumental migraines for the consumers who are just trying to do things the right way. There are some pretty credible arguments out there about Chase’s lack of consistency and customer service abilities.
At the same time, we’ve all learned to expect that sort of thing from big giant, faceless companies. It stinks, but it’s true. The bigger a company gets, the more bureaucracy they have and the more likely they seem to be to screw up the details. It’s a good reason to look for the personal touch. It’s a good reason to have reservations about dealing with Chase, Wells Fargo or any other Big Bank. It’s not a sign of hate, vindictiveness or pure sleaziness, however.
The second group of complaints are the kind that REALLY irritate me. They are based primarily on the desire of consumers to do whatever the hell they want, regardless of the terms of their loan agreement. You’ll see people whining about Chase’s repossession fees, the fact that they now owe more on cars than what they are worth (which, as we all should know is about as common as snow at Aspen) and the fact that Chase isn’t willing to “work with them” enough when they’re unable to pay their bills. There are also those who aren’t very happy that Chase Auto Finance is pretty serious about getting paid and will take an aggressive collections posture when people don’t pay.
These complaints are annoying for a few reasons. Initially, they allow real complaints to get lost in the shuffle. It’s hard to discover the real reasons to be wary of some lenders when you’re sorting through page after page of “I made a bad deal and wish the lender would adjust the terms to meet my whims” stuff. Additionally, it makes you think of all the time Chase and others need to spend with these people–time that could be devoted to doing other things correctly, thus decreasing the number of legitimate gripes.
I’m beginning to think that the bottom line when it comes to Chase Auto Finance or any other auto finance company boils down to the following…
The customer service is weaker than it should be. Errors are more common than they should be. You can’t expect them to help you out if you need a hand and the odds of experiencing some kind of annoying, head-spinning incident involving tons of phone calls, lost paperwork and confusion is directly proportional to the number of things you do that might be even slightly out of the ordinary.
If you pay every month at the same time in the same way without making any special requests or doing anything out of the ordinary, you’ll probably have a nice smooth go of things. If you deviate at all from that course, you’ll probably want to invest in a bottle of Tylenol.
That’s the annoying truth about Chase and all of the other big lenders out there. If you want personal service and a little more human interaction from a smaller-scale company, take your business elsewhere. Be forewarned, though, you might pay an extra point or so in interest for the privilege.













I do not consider it a “little” mistake to have the inability to process a payment that you charged someone $15 extra for, a fee based only on the fact that that someone CALLED YOU and GAVE YOU A DEBIT CARD NUMBER. The money should be taken out instantly, once, you get a confirmation, and that’s it. Every other business I’ve dealt with has no problem doing this properly.
Chase sent me a confirmation, BUT NEVER TOOK THE PAYMENT OUT. Now they are calling and harassing me again. I have the kind of job where I get a base plus a commission but no two commissions are ever the same – it might be a couple hundred extra one month and a thousand the next, depending on which deal closes when. If I can’t trust Chase’s own confirmation number as proof they did their job, what should I do? There are no Chase branches within 100 miles.
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David R. Lampsen reply on December 12th, 2009:
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Sounds like they really bungled your account. I wish you all the best in getting the situation resolved. I’m not a fan of Chase Auto or anything, my point was simply that not *all* of the complaints you see show real flaws in an operation. That doesn’t mean that individuals don’t suffer as a result of less common blunders, though. I hope they get their act together for you!
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i work for chase auto and we dont accept debit card payments over the phone, our system only processes electronic checks. and it takes 1-3 business days to clear. so by giving us a debit card number, after our redundant disclosure spiels about us needing checking and routing info, just goes to show that a lot of customers dont really listen and then when they encounter problems such as this, they immediately blame it on others. the problem with us americans is we blame our shortcomings on others, we are too proud that we are afraid to even look into our faults, much more to correct it. i had this customer once who blamed his boss, the government and even god for him loosing his job thus he is unable to make his car payments. he blamed everyone except himself. and the funny part is, he never even applied for unemployment nor looked for another job. what a pity.
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I have to wonder how many people are in the same boat as I.
I don’t have a car loan with Chase – never have.
As a matter of fact, I don’t have a car loan with anyone.
But they are blowing up my cell phone in excess of 8 calls/voice mail messages a day, trying to collect “my debt.”
They admit they cannot tie my phone number or name to a car loan.
But they call anyway.
So I filed a complaint with the FCC, contacted the Tarrant Co Sheriff’s Department to file a complaint, gave them the first installment of negative PR on my own blog, and am cruising the internet to do the same in every forum I can.
Something is seriously wrong with a company that spends this much energy trying to collect a debt from someone who has never had a loan with them.
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“If you pay every month at the same time in the same way without making any special requests or doing anything out of the ordinary, you’ll probably have a nice smooth go of things. If you deviate at all from that course, you’ll probably want to invest in a bottle of Tylenol.”
I’m sorry but I completely disagree with that.
In early 2009, I bought a 2006 Toyota Corolla S for $10,200 plus taxes… I put $3,000 down and the rest was financed through Chase…. I always paid my loan on time and sometimes months a head in advance. My loan time was for 5 years and I paid off the loan in November 2009… so more than 4 years early… I sent the payoff check the first week of November and have yet to receive the title to my car… and its almost mid January…. I called today and was told that they couldnt even find my account?!?!?!
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In January 2011, after multiple calls to Chase to verify, we were assured they would send a title once payment was received that paid off an auto loan. I wired $17K, they acknowledged receipt and weeks later they changed their story. They wont mail me the title…so now they have my full payment and the title. The non-US, off shore help desk spent an hour telling me ridiculous “Chase” policies…. “Venus” said once they receive faxes, it may take weeks before it is scanned and reviewed, hence anything I faxed (as they told me to do) to provide them signatures and authorizations, may still be in a pile to review. Lesson learned: DO NOT TRUST CHASE, DO NOT USE THEIR SERVICES, unless you want to deal with off-shored attendants who seem to know little about Chase. Next time, GO TO A LOCAL BANK.
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Thanks for having looked into this. I think the most apt question I encountered among the mountain of consumer complaints was this: Is it incompetence, or is it fraud?
In my own case, Chase has accepted two payments via telephone with live agents, using the default banking information that I have always had on file with them and used to make automated telephone payments for three years. Suddenly, inexplicably, the payments were not going through, and they bullyingly cast this as my fault. It has taken aggressive and repeated telephoning to them, on my part, to finally get them to admit that they were posting the payments to my bank using my ex-husband’s name. Again, they posit this as my fault–why?
Now, because they evidently do not know how to process payments, I am being bullied and harassed and appear to be more than 30 days late with a payment. I’m skipping details–it is a total nightmare and incredibly stressful. I simply want to make payments, make them in good faith, and enter an information black hole in which it seems their true intent is only to create a pretext for repossession. And repo will be happening over my dead body.
Anyone dealing with Chase Auto Finance must be prepared to watch every little thing they do, and to fight for their rights.
Very best,
Angela
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I cannot believe the tone of this guy – it sounds like he works for Chase! Let me tell you my story! First when I bought my new car in 2006 I was told by the dealership that it was a 5 year loan like my previous car loan! But when I inguired to Chase Auto Finance that I did not have any signed documents they told me it was a 7 year loan. Dealership still shows 5 year laon. I have worked in banking and finance all my life and never heard of a 7 year car loan. If that’s not enough, this summer after making 2 additional payments that took me to October when my 3 month supply of coupon vochers came I noticed late fees – I contacted them and they said I was 30 days late since 2009. Why didn’t they contact me PRIOR to 2010? And everytime the statements came it was for my regular payment which if I was late should have made one of those coupon vouchers double! Then I got the PA Department of Banking involved and upon learning they were receipts of Federal Bailout money and finding out from my former bank branch manager (who I just explained the situation never saying the company name) he said it has to either be Chase or Citibank. He said that they are the most hated instutions by other banks in the country. Working with the Congressman finally on January 28th of 2011 the same woman who has been writing all these letters stated that upon further review one of her previous letters stating I was 30 days late in 2009 forward were incorrect, but my November 18th payment was 35 days late. My documentation from my bank shows that Nov was paid on the 1st. Now she has changed the January 28th comments back to the you have been 30 days past do since 2009. Also they sent me a Repossion letter dated December 21, 2010 but it was never sent out until after Christmas and I received it on New Years Eve Day and wanted over $500.00 which is like2 car payments not the 1 payment I supposedly was late. That is fraud right there! I really hate these this company and if anyone was victimized YOU must file a Complaint with your state attorney general, NY state attorney General, the FTC and contact your congressman so they can start a congressional investigation!
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This person whomever wrote this article is a moron. To all you consumers out there looking to purchase a car and get a loan, DO NOT USE CHASE! Long story short, got a loan for our van, in hubby’s name only, they never want to speak to me. When he lost his job and we called and told them we were definitely trying and continued making payments. Well now, after many phone calls, harrassment etc. Van is repossessed and we get to hope we can come up with the cash to get it back. They are quite courteous when they want to be. Then the economy tanks and they turn into sharks. We took out the loan, we pay them, we don’t avoid them. Trust me, even if you are a day late they can take the car. (That is per the customer service rep’s mouth) So unless you are 100% sure that your future is financially sound, do not do this. Job security does not exist. Just ask my husband. For the record, we have never disputed our debt to them, and have managed to pay more money out in fees etc to keep them from calling(yeah right) and it does nothing. Have a rich relative on hand if life gets a little hard because it takes nothing short of a miracle now a days for people to even work with you when you ARE paying off your debt. To the author: get the hell over yourself and have a little compassion geez
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